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Revision as of 21:38, 23 November 2010
On September 30, 2006, The 100 Best NES Games Ever was posted. Three and a quarter years later, forumer jprime created this page as a counterweight to the pre-existing comments page for the SNES list.
Contents
- 1 Abadox: The Deadly Inner War
- 2 Micro Machines
- 3 Batman
- 4 Spy Hunter
- 5 Monster Party
- 6 Battle Chess
- 7 The Magic of Scheherazade
- 8 Kiwi Kraze
- 9 Tecmo Bowl
- 10 Hogan's Alley
- 11 The Three Stooges
- 12 Wrath of the Black Manta
- 13 Golgo 13: Top Secret Episode
- 14 Casino Kid
- 15 Tombs & Treasure
- 16 Rampage
- 17 Mappy-Land
- 18 Ninja Gaiden II: The Dark Sword of Chaos
- 19 Who Framed Roger Rabbit?
- 20 Double Dribble
- 21 Adventures of Lolo
- 22 North & South
- 23 Caveman Games
- 24 Wizards & Warriors
- 25 Rygar
- 26 Jaws
- 27 Ice Hockey
- 28 Adventures of Lolo 2
- 29 RoboCop
- 30 Snake's Revenge
- 31 The Goonies II
- 32 Ultima: Quest of the Avatar
- 33 Yo! Noid
- 34 Adventure Island II
- 35 Bomberman
- 36 The Guardian Legend
- 37 Jackie Chan's Action Kung Fu
- 38 Journey to Silius
- 39 Snake Rattle 'n Roll
- 40 R.C. Pro-Am
- 41 Double Dragon II: The Revenge
- 42 The Bugs Bunny Birthday Blowout
- 43 Deja Vu
- 44 Mega Man 6
- 45 Adventures of Lolo 3
- 46 Ice Climber
- 47 Tecmo Super Bowl
- 48 Dragon Warrior IV
- 49 Super C
- 50 Faxanadu
- 51 Adventure Island
- 52 Blades of Steel
- 53 Mega Man 5
- 54 Mega Man 4
- 55 Kirby's Adventure
- 56 Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
- 57 Gradius
- 58 Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves
- 59 Little Nemo: The Dream Master
- 60 Pirates!
- 61 Dragon Warrior
- 62 Blaster Master
- 63 A Boy And His Blob: Trouble On Blobolonia
- 64 Willow
- 65 Paperboy
- 66 Kid Icarus
- 67 Castlevania II: Simon's Quest
- 68 Excitebike
- 69 IronSword: Wizards & Warriors II
- 70 Dr. Mario
- 71 Bionic Commando
- 72 Dragon Warrior III
- 73 DuckTales
- 74 Base Wars
- 75 Shadowgate
- 76 Zelda II: The Adventure of Link
- 77 Duck Hunt
- 78 Castlevania
- 79 River City Ransom
- 80 Super Mario Bros. 2
- 81 Mega Man
- 82 Metal Gear
- 83 Crystalis
- 84 Maniac Mansion
- 85 Ninja Gaiden
- 86 StarTropics
- 87 Tetris
- 88 Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!!
- 89 Metroid
- 90 Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles II: The Arcade Game
- 91 Super Mario Bros.
- 92 Battletoads
- 93 Castlevania III: Dracula's Curse
- 94 Contra
- 95 Bubble Bobble
- 96 Mega Man 2
- 97 Mega Man 3
- 98 The Legend of Zelda
- 99 Final Fantasy
- 100 Super Mario Bros. 3
Abadox: The Deadly Inner War
joshwoodzell
I saw this advertised on the back page of an Archie comic when I was a wee lad and it looked disgusting. Naturally, I had to have it and was only slightly disappointed in it's gameplay. I still play it every couple years or so.
Ermac
Weird choice for 100, but i'm sure this is off the list once a revision is in place.
Micro Machines
Ermac
I prefer R.C. Pro-Am by a longshot, but 99 isn't a horrible spot for it.
Batman
Ermac
Wow, WTF, while I never drank the Kool-Aid on this game, it is still a top 50.
Spy Hunter
Ermac
Better on the PC, but I will accept it here, even though I can think of a few games that deserve this spot that were left off the list.
Monster Party
Battle Chess
Ermac
Much better on the PC and definitely not top 100.
The Magic of Scheherazade
Ermac
Yeah, it was good, you either loved it or hated it, though. I'd move this one up about 20 spots.
Kiwi Kraze
Ermac
Kiddish game that appeals to a certain audience that could probably be a little higher.
Tecmo Bowl
Ermac
Some assholes would put this in their top 20 simply because of the word "Tecmo", but not me. Most sports games on the NES sucked.
Hogan's Alley
Ermac
Would have loved this game as a pack-in instead of Duck Hunt.
The Three Stooges
Ermac
This game sucks, but since its The Three Stooges, I will let it pass at 90.
Wrath of the Black Manta
Ermac
Should be higher in some people's books.
Golgo 13: Top Secret Episode
Ermac
I like these type of games, not kiddish at all and I wish I could have known about it as a kid.
Casino Kid
Ermac
My brother played this game, it's probably in his top 20.
Tombs & Treasure
jprime
Worst. Ending. Ever.
Ermac
Looks like something I would have enjoyed as a kid, I haven't played it, but i'm sure it deserves a higher spot than some of the shitty games in the 70's and 80's.
Rampage
Ermac
Its really fun at first, then slowly starts to suck in a big way.
The Arcade version is the best.
Mappy-Land
Ermac
Wasn't there a game like this on the Sega Master System, too? I think I played this, but the person had better games lying around.
Ninja Gaiden II: The Dark Sword of Chaos
Who Framed Roger Rabbit?
Ermac
This game sucks, disappointing piece of shit when it comes down to it, despite what others say.
Double Dribble
Ermac
Still a sucky basketball game, but at least it didn't hurt your eyes as much as some sports games.
Adventures of Lolo
Ermac
The Lolo games should be all put together at like, 29.
North & South
Ermac
I love simulation games, but even I couldn't get into this, just too primitive.
Caveman Games
Wizards & Warriors
Rygar
Jaws
Ice Hockey
Adventures of Lolo 2
RoboCop
Snake's Revenge
The Goonies II
Ultima: Quest of the Avatar
Yo! Noid
Adventure Island II
Bomberman
The Guardian Legend
Jackie Chan's Action Kung Fu
Journey to Silius
Snake Rattle 'n Roll
R.C. Pro-Am
Double Dragon II: The Revenge
The Bugs Bunny Birthday Blowout
Deja Vu
Mega Man 6
Adventures of Lolo 3
Ice Climber
Tecmo Super Bowl
Dragon Warrior IV
Super C
Faxanadu
Adventure Island
Blades of Steel
Mega Man 5
Mega Man 4
Kirby's Adventure
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
Gradius
Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves
Little Nemo: The Dream Master
Pirates!
Dragon Warrior
Blaster Master
A Boy And His Blob: Trouble On Blobolonia
Willow
Paperboy
Kid Icarus
Castlevania II: Simon's Quest
Excitebike
IronSword: Wizards & Warriors II
Dr. Mario
Bionic Commando
Dragon Warrior III
DuckTales
Base Wars
Shadowgate
Zelda II: The Adventure of Link
Duck Hunt
Castlevania
River City Ransom
Super Mario Bros. 2
Mega Man
jprime
As good as SMB3 is, for me, this was the beginning of a six-way tie for the NES' best.
Metal Gear
Crystalis
Maniac Mansion
Ninja Gaiden
StarTropics
Tetris
Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!!
Metroid
jprime
Seriously, this LOST to Secret of Mana?!
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles II: The Arcade Game
Super Mario Bros.
JRA
You know you have a good list when the game that objectively changed the universe as far as video games are concerned barely makes the top 10. The fact that this game still holds up, despite being completely primitive, is a testament to its power. Before the VC, I would constantly have dreams about playing this game more than any other video game out there. Especially the castle levels.
Battletoads
Castlevania III: Dracula's Curse
Contra
Bubble Bobble
Mega Man 2
JRA
Greatest. Soundtrack. Ever. "O Brother, Where Art Thou?" and all the Disney collections in the world don't have shit on the sublime, yet simple sonic sensations on this masterpiece. But, the game. Many people nostalgic for the NES era remember this game as the moment where Inafune, and subsequently Capcom, and also subsequently the entire shoot-em-up genre hit its stride, and they're correct to think so. The flaws that held back the original game are gone, the enemies became slightly more inventive, and the weapons—oh, fuck yes, the weapons. The weapon everyone knows and loves from this game is the Metal Blade, but IMO the Crash Bomber would have completely usurped it if it didn't have ridiculously low ammunition. You are probably thinking that by giving it more ammunition, the game would have been broken—any more broken than it already is with the Metal Blade, guys? I don't think so.
Nonetheless, I can't call this the greatest Mega Man game. For while this game took many steps forward, it took a step backward as well. For instance, the ingenious rock-paper-scissors system Inafune designed in the first game was completely shattered here, which I thought was incredibly stupid. People say that allowed for a more freedom-based sandbox approach. Really? Is that why you morons just went for Metal Man first, and then just ran around like a chicken with your head cut off, using the Metal Blade against everyone with no rhyme, reason or strategy to it? That's like the makers of Link To The Past dropping the Bombos Medallion in the East Palace!
jprime
Let me just point out that I've never Metal Bladed my way through this game. For the most part, I always go through a selectable level as if I picked it first. If you really can't depend on your main weapon for the majority of each these games, you're a pussy.
Mega Man 3
JRA
It needs to be said. The Doc robots suck. Not only are they a fucking pain in the ass to kill (especially Quick Man) but what was the point to them? I understand Capcom was trying to give us more bang for our buck by adding four extra levels, but they were also trying to tell a story, what with Proto Man and Gamma. But nothing about the Doc Robots are ever explained, not in the instruction booklet, not in the game nothing. They just appear the fuck out of nowhere to irritate you. And were people really that nostalgic for the Mega Man 2 bosses by the time this game came out? It would have made more sense to have the Mega Man 1 bosses, especially since they profile them during the credits.
But at the end of the day, this is the better Mega Man game, and I'm glad it outranked 2.
The Legend of Zelda
JRA
I hated the fact that you had to spend a rupee to fire an arrow. If you were a particularly conservative player, that basically meant you would take painstaking care not to use the arrows except for bosses. And what fun is it if you can't use a new weapon without seriously inconveniencing yourself? Also, I miss the magic rod. Damn, that thing kicked ass.
Oh, and fuck the second quest.
Final Fantasy
JRA
Square's "swan song" may have invented modern RPGs, but it hasn't aged very well. There are some flaws in here that are just so stupid by today's standards that anyone who still clings to it are the stagnant anti-progress fools holding this planet back. Targeting dead enemies is one of these unforgivable sins. Also, having to take your dead allies to a clinic in order to bring them back to life, and even then, they only have one HP? Fuck that noise. I'm a little less critical of each spell only being able to be cast a certain number of times. Interesting idea, but at the end of the day, MP ended up being the better idea.
Oh, and L O FUCKING L at this game being the last word in difficulty on the NES. The Castlevania games are way harder than this. Sure, you have to level grind for a bit at the beginning, and the Earth Cave and the Ice Cavern proved to be challenges, but after that, I didn't need to grind once. Maybe its just because in dungeons, I fight whatever comes my way (doesn't everybody?), but for the most part, that was all the grinding I needed to do. Perhaps this game wasn't as hard as I'd heard it was because I used a strategy guide, but most NES games are un-fucking-playable without one, especially one as buggy as this. At the end of the day, it certainly lives up to its "epic title", but this was more of an important game then it is a good one. If you have an obsessive compulsion for all things 8-bit like me, then by all means, play the NES version, but if you just want to experience "the game," pick up the GBA version.
Super Mario Bros. 3
JRA
For the longest time, this was the golden standard by which future Mario games (and to a lesser extent, platformers) were compared to. I think New Super Mario Brothers Wii raised the bar a little bit higher, but that's a completely different discussion.
If there is any one flaw in this game, it's that you can't save your progress. And while that sounds like a complaint from an inexperienced younger generation, a) I grew up with this game, and b) plenty of other games were made around the same time, if not before then, which had just as much, if not more gameplay than SMB 3 which did have saving or password systems. So unless you are going to dedicate an entire Saturday to playing the game, the only way you can beat it in a small chunk of time is by using warps. Plus, I couldn't have been the only person who always thought the music box was kinda pointless. Also, the more I play this game, the more I realize the Hammer Bros. suit sucks. True, you can use it to deflect fire, but the hammers themselves are so clunky to use. The only thing that its good for is to hear a World King go, "Hey you, how much for the clothes? No dice? What a drag."
But yeah, greatest NES game ever? It certainly comes the closest. I've tried to think of many counterexamples over the years just to spark debate, but the greatness of other games just don't quite eclipse this one. Nintendo Power tried to claim that Legend of Zelda was better. That argument would hold water if the Second Quest wasn't unplayable.